Previously on Ladies…
Resident Boston Red Sox fans Texas Gal and GordonShumway were lucky enough to be at the game at The Jake last night where they were booed, heckled, had bottles thrown at them, and were almost removed by security when they attempted to defend themselves. Texas Gal’s quote of, “Fuck this town. Fuck their team. Fuck these people. I went BY MYSELF to Yankee Stadium and got disrespected a hell of a lot less”, does not reflect well of your fans.
The girls will fill you in on all the details later (with some new tales from tonight I suspect) but in the meanwhile, City of Cleveland, i.e. THE MISTAKE ON THE LAKE, you have now brought the wrath of all eight of us into focus in one location. You fuck with one of us, and we will defend her. You fuck with two of us, gals get twitchy and start looking at departing flights out of LAX and Mapquest routes from Philly and New Jersey.
I know it has been 10 years since you’ve last won the AL Pennant, but show some respect and act like you’ve been there before.
Or as SA wisely said, “Just because your team is in the playoffs doesn’t mean you can act like an asshole.”
*sharpens stabbing implements, straps on fighting shoes*
Despite my deep Yankees love, I hope the Sox annihilate the Indians, just because of what the city of Cleveland did to you gals.
What a bunch of cretinous yahoos!
That sounds A LOT like what I got as a Phillies fan when I watched the third game in Denver. You would have thought the fans were born, raised and die hard rockies fans to the death instead of fans who started watching when they started winning. I would have thought as a fan who has been to Mets games in my phillies garb, I could take it. But, man, they were just classless.
I feel ya pain guys!
Luh-hoo-suh-ers. That is incredibly weak. Way to remove any moral high ground you might have had as a result of perpetually sucking. You have to be obnoxious to make people long for the good old days of Fenway Park.
Can you blame the fine fans of Cleveland sports for striking out in fear at what they cannot comprehend? After all, why would anyone from another town willingly go to Cleveland when those poor souls would give anything to escape? You can see their confusion.
Just when I was fully enthralled on the Indians bandwagon and thinking about following this team next season, their fans have to go and act like assholes. I’m usually not one to blame an entire fan base on the behavior of a few fans, but at the very least this was the actions of an entire part of the stadium.
Sometimes fans don’t deserve the teams they cheer for.
“Sometimes fans donâ€™t deserve the teams they cheer for.”
Truer words have never been spoken.
Kick their asses girls.
Tell ’em the Ladies are comin! AND HELL’S COMIN’ WITH US!!!!
If I never have to come back to this city again, it will be too soon.
The Bronx is friendly and welcoming by comparison.
Was in Boston for the 2004 AFC Championship in a Manning jersey. Would go through that hell ten times more before setting one foot in that filthy fucking podunk slice of Ohio.
Your an even better fan for it, but at least we all learned a lesson, here.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in Cleveland, wear a helmet.
Like I needed another reason to hate the Indians. Even LeBron hates the Indians, although I can’t say I like his choice any better.
That’s filthier than the Cuyahoga.
Don’t worry guys… I have photos of the offenders that will be posted soon.
You throw a bottle at me, I throw your picture on the internet. That only seems fair.
Why do I have to choose, can’t I just believe that Boston and Cleveland are both full of douches and call it a day?
Tuffy, you owe me a new keyboard. I just spit Coke all over it when I read your comment. And its funny because its true. I don’t know a single Cleveland fan that actually lives in that shithole.
I debated a long time about posting here.
As I’m sure TSW will point out, I can get tremendously emotional over stupid sports-related b.s. I don’t even watch baseball during the regular season. I could care less about the teams. But come playoffs? I’m an irrational, screaming fool jumping on-and-off-and-around bandwagons. (I think it has something to do with pure competition.)
And while I’d defend a good person to the end and am always there when and ass-kicking needs to be dished out, I do have to say that I dearly hate the Red Sox. And worse things happen to people at Dodger Stadium. (A guy was stabbed TO DEATH for wearing a Mets jersey there a year ago– on a non-Mets gameday, even.) Yeah, what those fans did is classless and tacky. But it happens everywhere. And, again, it’s the Red Sox. People who have no connection to anything sports-related seem to have an absolutely, totally irrational hatred for them.
Remember when Sinead O’Connor tore up the picture of the Pope on SNL and said, “fight the enemy” or some such?
And then the next weekend Madonna was on SNL and she tore up a picture of Joey Buttafucco or Sinead or whatever and said, “Fight the real enemy”?
TSB just tore up the picture of Tom Brady.
That said, come on, you can’t out-douchebag Boston fans. You have Bill Simmons, Jimmy Fallon, and Ben Affleck as fans. Case closed.
I had another comment about some other lady fans who had similar problems in Cleveland, but it’s not showing up. Oh well. Basically what I was saying was, I agree, Cleveland fans are mean. And I’m sorry.
let’s not even start judging by celebrity fans. for the record, jimmy fallon is NOT, repeat NOT, a red sox fan. judging red sox fans by him is like judging americans’ patriotism by jane fonda.
also, w/r/t the cleveland fans being bandwagon fans thing, they DO still hold the record for longest sellout streak in MLB history, and it WASN’T recent. also, they’ve known their share of frustration out there with several playoff appearances in the 90’s with nothing to show for it. this doesn’t excuse their behavior toward texas gal, but we might want to back off a little on the “they just started watching because they started winning” tack, because you really can’t count cleveland fans in that category. (rockies fans? definitely.)
in this case…i wasn’t there, so i don’t know. but i agree (somewhat) with what IJMTU said above. i’ve seen film footage of what happens when you go into the yankee stadium bleachers wearing red sox gear…two red sox fans were assaulted in new york just a couple of weeks ago…i’ve seen fights break out at fenway at yankees games…it *does* happen in a lot of places. doesn’t make it right, but doesn’t make it a particular trait of cleveland, either.
then again, cleveland is where that happened, and that’s what happened to you ladies…. at the very least, fans should take the high road if they want to claim superiority.
You can’t see me, but I’m making a very disappointed face right now.
I never understood the point of being douchey to out-of-town fans…way to uphold a stereotype, you morons. I mean, I understand some friendly banter back and forth (happened when I went to the Phils-Mets game at CBP in August…though I know there was some ridiculousness at that series, too), that’s all part of the game as far as I’m concerned. But as far as booing, heckling, and freaking THROWING BOTTLES at people?! GET A LIFE, seriously.
Sometimes fans donâ€™t deserve the teams they cheer for.
And how! Unreal. I’d like to think that if I were on a team and heard about this kind of behavior, I’d speak out against it (for what it’s worth).
I realized why it’s not showing up; I had a web-site address embedded in the comment. If you go to 2michelles web-site, they attended the Cleveland-Miami game in Cleveland and apparently got similar rude treatment (scroll to the end of their video). I’m not in Cleveland, but if I’d were, I’d try to show some hospitality to you out-of-town fans so you know we’re not all like that.
Dear Texas Gal and GordonShumway,
I’m truly sorry that you were treated so poorly at The Jake last night. As a die-hard and lifelong Cleveland sports fan, I can state that not all Cleveland fans behave as badly as the ones you ran into do. Most all Cleveland fans are decent people and the ones you encountered really are the minority (unfortunately, a loud, memorable, and stereotype-able minority).
Speaking on behalf of me, my friends (also lifelong, die-hard Cleveland fans), and most Clevelanders, we have the sense to know that the liberal use of salt in your wounds does not make our victory any sweeter. If me and my friends were at The Jake last night, we might have offered a conciliatory “Tough break” and maybe even offered to buy you a drink (especially if I had known that you were two of my favorite “Ladies…”!).
Hopefully your experience at The Jake tonight will be better. At the very least, you can take heart in knowing that you have at least one…
Cleveland “Ladies…” Fan.
Yeah, I’d berate a Yankee fan at Fenway, but GOOD-NATUREDLY. Not booing. Not throwing bottles. Just witty comments about their players’ lameness, not at the fans themselves. To use the third-grade analogy: the kid who has a crush on you and teases you to cover it up, as opposed to the kid who wants your lunch money.
That’s incredibly lame. I do NOT want to go to a game in Cleveland–they’ve got midges AND mean fans.
Wow, according to cleveland.indians.mlb.com: “This urban ballpark and Cleveland landmark offers a fan-friendly facility within an intimate environment.” Fan-friendly, my ass!
We can all agree there are some real losers in every stadium across this great land of ours.
I just want it to be known that I will hurt anyone who hurts those two.
As someone who has had food and a bottle thrown at him for wearing Angels gear into Dodger Stadium, I know how humiliating and frustrating it is (thankfully, the bottle missed, but the food didn’t).
Best of luck to TexasGal and GordonShumway tonight (and any fans wearing opposing team gear). Fans anywhere who throw things at people are classless, and the lowest type of life-form.
I also have to say, there are assholes everywhere. No fandome is immune from the classless jerks.
Throwing things and using vulgar or threatening language are never appropriate. And if I had been sitting with you lovely Ladies… last night, I would have kicked those Cleveland fans’ asses to defend your honor.
Having said that, Red Sox fans have no room to complain about anyone else’s fans or call them douchebags. The stories of ignorant and downright cruel treatment from Red Sox fans (at Fenway and anywhere else in the world) are voluminous.
On a more personal level, I am a die-hard Cardinals fans. Busch Stadium is renowned for being just about the least hostile venue for opposing teams’ fans. I was always neutral about the Red Sox–didn’t love ’em, didn’t hate ’em–until I went to Boston for the Cards-Sox interleague series in ’03. Fellow Cards fans and I were guilty of nothing more than wearing our team’s paraphernalia and cheering for them, but Boston fans were vulgar, threatening and even physically violent towards us. I had never been spit on in my life until I walked quietly down the street outside Fenway after that game. We went on to the Bronx for the Cards-Yanks series that weekend and were welcomed with open arms. Since that day, I’ve hated the Sox and–whether right or wrong–their fans. I’m no Yankees fan, but I will always cheer for them to beat the Red Sox when they go head-to-head.
Treating another team’s fans like $h!+ is never acceptable. Unless they’re Cubs fans. F@#% them.
Shouldn’t have really been such a surprise; Clevelanders have a thing for throwing bottles:
(sorry, still HTML illiterate! :P)
@Bleacherbum: Agreed. Even if I’m not fond of my friend’s passion for a particular team, I would never stand by while they were pelted with bottles, food and whatever else. No matter what my feelings are about the R.S., friends are friends and Ladies… are ladies.
Also, it should be noted that earlier in the year TSW and I went to Dodger Stadium for a Pirates/Dodgers game. Despite the fact that the Pirates were already starting into (another) season-long down-slide (5 games back of .500), we were chided, ridiculed and had ice thrown at us by the fans. Later in the year, we ventured to Angeles stadium for another Bucs match-up (at this point, there we 12 games back of .500) and the fans couldn’t have been nicer.
Los Angeles Angeles of Anaheim? No way. These people behaved like human beings.
As a Yanks fan it’s nice to see that you had a good experience at Yankee Stadium. We’re not nearly as terrible and as assholish as we are perceived to be. But, you know, we buy championships, blah, blah, blah, evil empire, blah, blah, blah, Big Stein and Pay-Rod.
And hell, we don’t throw slices of pizza at other Yankees fans.
Every team has asshole fans. Every. Team. Even my milquetoast Colts.
Having said that, Red Sox fans have no room to complain about anyone elseâ€™s fans or call them douchebags.
Sure they do. Massholes exist, en masse if you will. Hell, we copped to THAT in the post title. The point is that WE most certainly are not fans of that sort, and do not deserve to be treated as such. Attn: Indians faithful: Seriously, fuck with our girls again, and I will straight murder your asses.
To buy list:
8 Leather jackets (Reversible into pink satin ala the Pink Ladies)
1 Invisible plane
1 MAC truck mobile unit
1 Male flunky who can be the voice coming out of the box
I seriously don’t understand the mentality behind being a dick to someone else at a sports event. I mean I LOVE Purdue basketball and hate IU. And I’ve gone to Purdue-IU games at Purdue and there were plenty of IU fans there but I never thought once it would be fun to heckle them or worse. I just cheer for my team and they cheer for theirs. If your team wins you’re going to be happy anyway so who cares about the opposing fans? It’s one thing to talk shit on an internet board, everyone does that, but to throw stuff at people? That takes a special brand of stupid.
The way I see it, sports would be boring if the “the other team” didn’t have fans. I welcome them! I know that as passionate as I am about my teams, other people are that passionate about their own. Who am I to tell them they are wrong? What would be the point of competing if everybody cheered for one team??
BleacherBum, one thing I’ve witnessed at Busch Stadium no less than 3 times are drunk people being assholes to opposing fans and the surrounding Cardinals fans turning on their own and taking care of business. It’s pretty awesome.
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I must delurk to say this: As a lifelong Indians fan (all nineteen years of it, anyway), I’m sorry to hear that but not entirely surprised. Indians fans aren’t even really nice to each other– you should see some of the fights people get into over the little handcrank onion machines at the Jake. Since I’m not actually from Cleveland, either, I can completely understand that this anger and meanness comes from being a resident of a gray, smelly, impoverished city with little to recommend itself to people not in Ohio. Or, really, most people in Ohio.
Tell â€˜em the Ladies are comin! AND HELLâ€™S COMINâ€™ WITH US!!!!
We’re going with lawyers (us), guns & money!
I think we may only 6. Jelly & Melly have them. (grumble, grumble. /iPhone envy.)
I’ve been to most of the ballparks up and down the east coast (minus Fenway), and I’ve been treated fine at all of them. Except Yankee Stadium. And even that one was only once, when some guys threw garbage at us because my husband dared wear a Reds cap (that was right after the Reds had just swept the Yankees in interleague in 2003.) Oh, there was the time that a 2-month-old Baby Mets was booed at CBP, but that was mostly teasing. I think. :)
DEATH to Cleveland.
I can say I’ve seen Mets fans having bottles thrown at them in the bleachers at Yankee Stadium just this past year. So not all of the Yankee “fans” are respectful. Thankfully a police man saw the guys throw a 3rd bottle and promptly escorted them out. The group of guys were Saturday ticket holders and according to my friends who also have the Saturday plan, it is quite a common occurence for one of the guys in that group to get thrown out every week for some infraction. Boo to sucky fans.
I’m appalled at my fellow Cleveland fan. I was at the game last night and found my section to be quite genial with the few Red Sox fans nearby. Just the typical ribbing that comes with wearing the opposing team’s gear in a playoff situation, but certainly nothing that reached anything near contentious. I know it’s probably all a little empty as I’m just an alias here, but I’m sorry for the rude behavior from a few dickheads.
I only need the faces posted. I will connect them with addresses, and then commence maiming of said faces.
I had a great experience at the Jake this summer decked out in Phillies gear. I guess Indians fans only have the balls to act like assholes once the WS is within sight. I really hope the security guard who tried to throw you out wasn’t really Italian and kinda pervy in a non-creepy way; he was a funny guy who gave foul balls to me and my sister, I’d hate if he was the one who was a jerk to you ladies.
I apologize for not being here sooner, and I know that the awesome power of the fully operation Ladies… vengeance machine needs no help, but I can be in Cleveland in just under 200 minutes with bail monies if the need arises.
Shame on you Ohio. I wanted to believe better of you, but you have, once again, proven yourself to be Ohio.
We heart you, McBain.
Sorry to hear you were harassed.
There are not a lot of real Indians fans out there. Most of these jumped on the bandwagon.
Earlier this year when the Red Sox were in Cleveland 90% of the fans were Red Sox fans. They out cheered the Indians fans ten fold and CC Sabathia even complained about how loud the cheers were for the Red Sox.
If I was you I would complain and go up as high as you have too. Call their stadium and ask to speak to security and don’t stop until you reach the owner. When you feel you aren’t getting a good enough answer tell whoever you are talking to your want to speak to their boss and keep going up.
call their GM, Michael Bolton, and complain. It’s truly classless when a man tries to harm a woman physically.
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And where is your proof? Photos? Videos? And these lies made front page. Way to go wordpress.
Also as a fellow Clevelander, I offer my apologies. I know that there’s nothing that can rectify having shit thrown at you in front of 45,000 people – so here’s hoping that you realize not all Cleveland fans act that way.
And to those that feel that Cleveland is a bandwagon town, I’ll take the high road on that one.
I want to be the voice coming out of the little box. Is this the kind of thing you guys are interviewing for?
As most of you ladies can attest, visiting opposing teams stadiums is half the fun of being a (in my case, life long Red Sox and Jets) fan. I have been in the same position, and believe it or not, punching one person in the face (in my case, some lippy chick who has NO FUCKING BUSINESS being at the game), normally shuts the rest of them up. And, sure, gets you thrown out. Not before shouting, “I’ve been thrown out of better places than this!” But it does make you feel better while you’re watching at a nearby bar.
We have a big game tomorrow night, so it’s time to rally, girls. GO SOX!
There hasn’t been a glass bottle of anything served at any Cleveland game in 20 years. Hell hath no fury like self righteous women, in enemy territory, probably running their loud Boston mouth’s until the provived Cleveland fans surrounding them started giving some back. Then starting a smear campaign like little girls. When I go to a game in hostile territory, I wear my colors with pride, but know enough to keep a low profile. Stop whining and accept some responsibility for your actions.
….that’s right, because not serving glass containers at a ballpark means that no one will bring them in on their own, either. Ever.
(And what the hell does “provived” mean? What are you, a L’Oreal shill?)
I watched the game at a bar here in Chicago.
Sad realization. While we all get together in hatred of the Yankees, apparently, for whatever reason, people were rooting for the Indians in said bar.
There I was, wearing my ‘Tek attire and wondering what the hell….
It can’t just be the proximity thing, can it?
*sigh* Thursday better kick ass. I mean, it’s nice to have to Patriots to rest on and all, but really now.
1. Who said the bottles were glass?
2. What is a “mouth’s”? Or “provived”?
3. I’m not from Boston.
The fans in our section on Tuesday were way better- in that there were no bottles thrown (not even glass ones!) and no personal insults. So, yay… I guess.
We found the culprits they’re in the comments over here:
about that voice/box thing?
TGC – You’re an engineer, right? Rig one up.
Hell hath no fury like self-righteous anonymous men pissed that out of town FEMALE BASEBALL FANS got tickets to a game he wanted to go to. And that the female baseballfans in question aren’t wearing pink hats and getting up and down the entire game and actually keep score and know what they’re talking about.
you probably also wonder why you can’t get laid.
metsgrrl is my homey.
Also- I would like to shoutout to the following nice Clevelanders I met during my stay: (1) the old-er married couple next to me at last night’s game who had a hand-drawn sign from their kids (precious!) and were super nice the whole game, (2) the waitress at Denny’s who gave me a free piece of pumpkin pie at 2:30 am when she found out I was a Sox fan, and (3) the hot Indians fan who sat next to me on the plane home to Chicago.
I’m still not ever going back to Cleveland, though.
Likewise, I would like to give hugs to
* The Indians fan that shook my hand at the end of the game last night
* The fans who knew the Sox inside & out and wanted to talk about strategy and the cost of beer and why players have girlfriends
* The Yankees fan who commiserated with me
* Even the guy in front of me who would turn around and spout off statistics like “Rafael Betancourt’s ERA is a negative number and he once threw a ball so hard it induced labor in a woman in the bleachers”.
* The Jacobs Field staff members who selected “Whoomp! There It Is!” as a rally song.
I, too, must shoutout the Indians PA person, but in my case, it is because they played THE VENGABOYS. BOTH NIGHTS. I didn’t think that music was still played in the year 2007. It was so awful, it was awesome.
I certainly do not condone what you went through in the game but I have to say that I thought the sign above about being assholes was directed at the Red Sox fans. You people certainly cannot claim sainthood .
Hooza’s to you ladies. I especially like the retort on “provives.” Yeah, like what the hell kinda word is that anyways?
As for NonRedSoxFan, who cares what you think? You live in the middle of Red Sox Nation and you have the nerve to claim us Sox fans cannot claim sainthood? We suffered for 84 years, endured the traitorous actions of the pocketrocket and greenie, and bestowed redemption upon Buckner. We can claim whatever the he11 we want.
signed me, Sauerkraut
As a life-long Tribe fan, I am truly sorry that you were treated by those assholes like that.
I also hate seeing those douche bags wearing the head dresses. I’ve been to many games in the Jake, and have come across plenty of classless Tribe fans also (I’ve had to move seats).
Boston fans have theirs too. This has been my experience this week, and at previous games, etc.
– I have a Go Indians towel in the back seat of my car. Itâ€™s obvious that I do not support the home town team, so everyone around feels the need to bring that to my attention. I’ve been flicked off and cussed at oh, about eight times now while driving to and from work, and while walking around town (one time while holding my 18 month old daughter when some dick saw fit to yell “Fuck the Tribe”).
– I had beer thrown on me while watching the Tribe-Sox at Fenway in the bleachers.
– I’ve had golf balls thrown at me while playing golf with my Yankee fan brother-in-law.
– I’ve been threatened at 2 games, shoved, and told to leave bars while there with friends who are red sox fans.
Classless fans are everywhere, and Boston is no exception.
That aside, I have a great job, but I must say that Northeast Ohio is a MUCH better place to live based on oneâ€™s options for housing alone. I notice how everyone trashes Cleveland, but I wish I could go back. I think Northeast Ohioans are tired of people who have NO IDEA what itâ€™s like to live there, trashing their town and throwing clichÃ© expressions around that came about in the 60â€™s (mistake on the lake). Experience it for more than a baseball game before you make blind judgment.
I wonâ€™t make excuses for those dicks that treated you that way at either game, thatâ€™s just wrong. Again, Iâ€™m sorry.
Put up the picture of these men. I am sorry but I can’t see you getting in any trouble if what happened happened.